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...and all that.
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Is a nice drive-time selection.
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I'm Dermot O'Malley and
I'm here until 8:00...
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Long delays northbound on the
A1 at the Bradfield Interchange.
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Let's go straight to
Priscilla in the helicopter.
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Yes, hello, Harry. At least
two miles of tailback...
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Yep. Those who survived
get only a fra...
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...and for me. For a long time...
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So...
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Three copies of...
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Hey, steady. Steady, man.
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Steady.
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It's in here somewhere.
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Sorry!
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This is you!
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"Killer Instinct" by Dr. Tony Hill.
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Sounds good.
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Thank you.
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And I'll need some
identification, please, Dr Hill.
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Have you got your recorder?
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Belt on?
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Could I borrow your fingernails?
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I tend to eat mine.
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I'm sure if you asked,
they'd give you another one.
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Thank you.
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Are you American?
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Canadian.
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I'm on my way back home -
Vancouver.
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Been tracing ancestors.
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Are you travelling on business?
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Yes, I'm on a book tour.
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I'm promoting a book.
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You're a novelist?
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What's your book called?
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I'm a clinical psychologist.
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It's called "Killer Instinct".
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It's their title, it's not mine.
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A study of past cases.
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Oh, my God.
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So...
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Can you tell what's
going on in my mind?
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Did you torture animals as a child?
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- No.
- Then I'm not much use to you.
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On the day in question,
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Kenneth Gray left home at 7:20,
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arriving for work at 8:00.
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At 10:30am 54-year-old Mr. Gray
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left the DIY superstore,
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and went out to get coffee
for some of his colleagues.
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I wonder how many
of them had sugar.
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He never returned and
hasn't been seen since.
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Detective Superintendent,
we know all this.
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We've been given these
details excatly the way
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you've been describing
them the last half hour.
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Are you going to add to them
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or have you brought us here to York
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for a case review to read to us?
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Two months have passed.
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Kenneth Gray, a man on the
Sex Offenders' Register,
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has still not been traced.
What has been done to find it?
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Why did it take your officers here in York
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three days to log him
as officially missing?
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You know, where his daughter live?
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Has he absconded and
gone to live with her?
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If we asked better questions,
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we might get more
meaningful answers.
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I was hoping to come on to
all of that later this morning.
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Very nice to meet you, Patricia.
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I've put my e-mail on there too.
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- OK.
- You take care.
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Killer Instinct!
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It's good to meet you at last.
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Everyone at the publishers
is very excited, Dr. Hill.
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Good.
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A radio interview today, then
a couple of press tomorrow.
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And that's it?
I thought there'd be more.
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It's a text book, Dr. Hill,
not Harry Potter.
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Under the circumstances,
three interviews is amazing.
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If we'd gone with your title,
I doubt we'd even have one!
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They know they've
made mistakes, Carol.
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That's why we're here.
They don't need
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their noses rubbed in it.
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So we skirt round
for their benefit.
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Outbursts don't help.
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Kenneth Gray is still missing.
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Yeah, still a danger to children.
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DS Winter, ma'am.
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Shall I take you through a detailed
record of the investigation?
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Yeah, sure.
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Mind the doors. Doors closing.
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Where are you staying?
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In case I have to bring
round some of the files.
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You'll find most of us
are at the New Park Hotel.
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OK.
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Well, predatory killers
aren't always like that.
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If something isn't right
about a chosen victim
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They can turn away and...
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...choose someone else.
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Fascinating stuff. We have the
travel and the weather coming up.
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So, Tony, in a sentence,
why do people kill?
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In a sentence?!
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Just try to be a
little more... jolly.
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Since when has the killing of one
human being by another ever been jolly?
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Marion?
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Marion?
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Marion, are you there?
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Hi.
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Detective Chief
Inspector Jordan, please.
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DS Winter. She's expecting me.
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I'm sorry. Miss Jordan
checked out two hours ago.
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Sorry to pull you away.
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I was wasting my
time. What have we got?
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Marion Reece, aged 36,
divorced, mother of two,
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discovered just after
four o'clock.
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- Not by the children?
- No, no, no. Neighbour.
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Vernon estimates time of
death at around one o'clock.
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From what we can tell, the initial
attack took place inside the door.
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There's no sign of a break-in, so
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she must have let the attacker in.
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A red Ford Fiesta,
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a plumber's van and a
dark blue Vauxhall Cavalier
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were all seen parked up
nearby most of the afternoon.
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She worked part-time
for a local solicitors.
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- Today was her day off.
- Where was she found?
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This way. In the kitchen.
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Battered to death
with a steam iron.
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Her hands tied behind her back
with flex from the vacuum cleaner.
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Her body had been covered with an
ironing board with footprints on it.
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Looks like they stood on
it whilst it was on her.
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"Screw you"
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Death was by blunt
trauma to the head.
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Three cracked ribs,
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commensurate with being jumped on.
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No traces of semen,
so she wasn't raped.
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She had the onset of
secondary cancer in her liver,
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probably only a few
months left to live.
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Does doing what you
do ever get you down?
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It's not a happy job.
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It's not something Mrs. Vernon
and I chat about over dinner.
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But I hope what I do provides
answers for the families.
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It's not as if we can
bring them back, can we?
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He's just not answering
his phone.
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This one, madam.
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Thanks for rescuing me, Carol.
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All part of the service.
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Sorry, it's the publisher.
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- What is it you want me to look at?
- Scene-of-crime photos.
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Murder. Something odd about it.
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Good.
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- Victim?
- A woman.
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36 years old.
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- And where were these?
- Living-room carpet.
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- And what was in the fridge?
- Usual stuff. Nothing important.
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My feeling is we have
a deliberate choice
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of domestic implements.
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Couldn't they just
have been lying around?
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No.
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From what we understand of her,
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she always put stuff
away, no washing out...
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Whoever did this got those
things out specifically.
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So a comment on her
as a mother or a wife?
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- Ex-husband?
- Pulled him in this morning.
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How was the divorce? Acrimonious?
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He had an affair with
a much younger woman.
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Seems most of the anger
was on Marion's side.
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What about custody?
Access to the children?
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- Did she make it difficult?
- All appears fairly adult.
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She was dying of cancer.
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He was gonna have the kids.
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He does have a previous
conviction for assault.
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- On her?
- No.
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Another girlfriend,
when he was younger.
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He couldn't handle being dumped.
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Screw you.
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- And Marion was raped?
- No.
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- Interesting.
- Why? Should she have been?
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No, but it would help explain
the level of violence against her.
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Was anything taken?
Television? DVD?
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Her handbag was
trashed, otherwise no.
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So, it's a blitz attack.
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Anger and defiance
low level of theft.
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The husband could've done it
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and made it look
like something else.
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We're also looking at handymen
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she may have owed money to.
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Good.
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Am I keeping you from something?
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- No. Nothing.
- Then why don't you reply?
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I'm in hiding.
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Look, my feeling is that the
killer was known to Marion.
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Well, on the surface, that's
a very natural conclusion.
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Yeah, I want to know
if I've missed anything.
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Thanks for the book.
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Hate the title, by the way.
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Yeah, so do I...
Oh, go away.
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Tom?
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When can I go home and
be with my children?
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A few more questions about
your break-up marriage.
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- Still don't want to see a solicitor?
- I've nothing to hide.
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Not raped.
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Then what have we got?
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When did you last
see your ex-wife?
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Sunday night, 6:30.
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- How was she?
- OK.
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- What did you talk about?
- Nothing.
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There wasn't anything
to talk about.
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00:15:38,740 --> 00:15:41,660
After a divorce, there
is not much left to say.
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00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:47,470
And how old is your new girlfriend
Sarah?
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22.
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- That's quite an age gap.
- Is it?
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- We don't notice.
- How does she get on with Marion?
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00:16:02,940 --> 00:16:06,840
- Do you put things on the fridge?
- My girlfriend does.
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It's somewhere you won't forget.
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Somewhere you won't fail to notice.
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00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,550
It's maximum impact.
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Yeah, but...
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00:16:15,580 --> 00:16:17,030
...why...?
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Why these words?
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Why not slag? Slut?
Whore? Bitch? Die?
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No, it's...
screw you.
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00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,530
Screw who?
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Screw her?
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Or screw us?
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Geoffries.
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00:16:43,830 --> 00:16:45,280
Why?
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00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:50,966
The neighbour thinks there was a
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dark blue Vauxhall
Cavalier here last night.
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00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,116
- Are they sure?
- Seems to know his cars.
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Go back and see if there was anything
distinctive about it.
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There must be 3 million
blue Cavaliers out there.
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Josef Paul.
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Hungarian Jew who fled to this
country as a boy during the war.
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78 years old.
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Any similarities
to Marion Reece?
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I'll let you decide.
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Oh, for goodness' sake, Tony!
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Will you turn that
bloody thing off?
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He's lost around 27 degrees
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which, at a rate of
around 1.5 an hour,
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means he's been
dead about 18 hours.
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00:17:36,090 --> 00:17:38,430
Ties in with the
sighting of the car.
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How did he die?
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I'm about to find out.
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24 of them. Looks like
needle marks,
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but there was some blood on an
old school compass in the bedroom.
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00:18:05,050 --> 00:18:07,216
- Before or after death?
- Before.
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00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,650
There's a certain
amount of congealing.
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The body had tried to heal itself.
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Futile in the circumstances.
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He's been strangled, face-to-face,
manually, through the bag.
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Same killer?
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00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,410
There are some similarities, but...
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the mode of death
is so different.
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When you're killing someone,
you doesn't do experiments,
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you find what works
and stick with it.
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So, in your view,
they're not linked?
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00:18:38,100 --> 00:18:40,710
Same type of car was
just a coincidence?
258
00:18:41,390 --> 00:18:43,546
Well, Marion Reece was
more a delayed blitz attack.
259
00:18:43,570 --> 00:18:45,636
His is more your usual sadist.
260
00:18:45,660 --> 00:18:49,280
It's slow. It's deliberate.
And it's done for fun.
261
00:18:50,360 --> 00:18:53,770
But, psychologically, the
signature in each case is torture.
262
00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:14,710
You had a couple of phone calls.
263
00:19:15,810 --> 00:19:17,096
- Me?
- Yeah,
264
00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:19,416
Some woman from your publishers
trying to track you down.
265
00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,760
- I said you'd call her back.
- Oh, right, yeah.
266
00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:23,530
Then do it.
267
00:19:23,660 --> 00:19:26,456
Poor woman's worn her
thumbs out texting you.
268
00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,500
And er... some American woman.
269
00:19:29,490 --> 00:19:30,806
- Who?
- She wouldn't say.
270
00:19:30,830 --> 00:19:32,630
She said she'd get you at home.
271
00:19:34,220 --> 00:19:35,896
I don't know any American woman.
272
00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,420
Tony, this is a police station,
273
00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,160
not your personal message service.
274
00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,126
Guv, Tom Reece wants
to see his solicitor.
275
00:19:44,150 --> 00:19:45,600
Does he?
276
00:19:45,650 --> 00:19:49,080
See if you can find any connection
between him and Josef Paul.
277
00:19:49,580 --> 00:19:53,760
Tony, if it was Tom Reece who
killed Marion, could he kill again?
278
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,740
A man kills his ex-wife
in a jealous rage.
279
00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,880
If he's gonna kill anyone else,
he'd do it then and there, not...
280
00:20:00,170 --> 00:20:01,876
days or weeks later.
281
00:20:01,900 --> 00:20:03,986
OK. When his lawyer
arrives, let him go.
282
00:20:04,010 --> 00:20:07,280
Don't want to hold him without
evidence, but keep digging.
283
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,730
So, what previous convictions
should I bear in mind? Sex offences?
284
00:20:11,250 --> 00:20:13,896
Only those that involve
assault and imprisonment.
285
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,480
And Josef Paul's killer will
have tortured animals as a child.
286
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,310
Oh, the American woman...
She wasn't Canadian, was she?
287
00:20:21,530 --> 00:20:22,980
Dunno.
288
00:20:47,900 --> 00:20:49,610
I didn't see you.
289
00:21:00,020 --> 00:21:02,770
You have 12 messages.
290
00:21:03,340 --> 00:21:06,650
Tony, it's Fiona from the
publishers. Can you call me?
291
00:21:06,900 --> 00:21:09,270
Hi. It's Fiona. Look,
where have you gone?
292
00:21:11,060 --> 00:21:13,846
Hi, Tony, it's Patricia.
293
00:21:13,870 --> 00:21:15,356
I bought your book and
294
00:21:15,380 --> 00:21:17,576
and I so wanna talk
to you about it.
295
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,956
How did you get my number?
296
00:21:18,980 --> 00:21:21,096
Me again. I tried you
at the police station,
297
00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:23,496
but I thought it best not
to involve third parties.
298
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,786
Your books is just... well...
I'll tell you when I see you.
299
00:21:26,810 --> 00:21:28,116
It look at impossible,
300
00:21:28,140 --> 00:21:30,096
but I've rescheduled things, so
301
00:21:30,120 --> 00:21:32,176
I'm coming back up to Bradfield.
302
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,840
- I'll call you when I get there.
- What?!
303
00:21:34,990 --> 00:21:37,056
Tony... Fiona. OK. You win.
304
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,810
You don't want to do interviews.
305
00:21:42,650 --> 00:21:44,970
"You left call me DS Marry
Winter 0797-456-7890. Any time."
306
00:21:48,340 --> 00:21:49,866
Lab reports.
307
00:21:49,890 --> 00:21:52,666
They found urine on the carpet
in the living room in both houses.
308
00:21:52,690 --> 00:21:54,800
- They're testing now.
- Both?
309
00:21:55,060 --> 00:21:56,456
Well, it's hardly surprising.
310
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:57,956
If someone came at me with a knife,
311
00:21:57,980 --> 00:22:00,560
I'd lose control over my bladder.
312
00:22:00,980 --> 00:22:02,796
But there's something else.
313
00:22:02,820 --> 00:22:05,130
The blood written over the fridge.
314
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,190
- It isn't Marion's?
- No, it's someone else's.
315
00:22:14,690 --> 00:22:15,976
First thing in the
morning, I want a
316
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,060
sample taken from Tom Reece.
317
00:23:31,540 --> 00:23:34,296
- Hello?
- Oh, hi. Is that Patricia?
318
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,800
- Tony! I've been calling.
- Yes, I know.
319
00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:40,556
- How did you get my number?
- You gave it to me.
320
00:23:40,580 --> 00:23:42,600
Er, no, I didn't think I did.
321
00:23:42,940 --> 00:23:45,036
Any time I was in
Bradfield, you said,
322
00:23:45,060 --> 00:23:47,370
which is so sweet of you.
323
00:24:29,460 --> 00:24:31,190
Hello, this is Dr. Tony Hill.
324
00:24:31,350 --> 00:24:32,656
Please leave a message.
325
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,866
So good to talk to you last night.
326
00:24:34,890 --> 00:24:37,286
I've booked us a table for dinner.
327
00:24:37,310 --> 00:24:38,906
- Dinner?
- It's in your name.
328
00:24:38,930 --> 00:24:40,436
It's 8:30 OK?
329
00:24:40,460 --> 00:24:41,910
Let me know.
330
00:24:42,740 --> 00:24:45,890
Patricia, I'm not sure what
you think is going on here...
331
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,566
Marion Reece was blood group O.
332
00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:55,636
The writing on the fridge
was A-Rhesus negative.
333
00:24:55,660 --> 00:24:57,740
I'm having it DNA profiled.
334
00:24:58,230 --> 00:25:00,120
What? Not her blood?
335
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,496
That's unusual, given
the rage of the attack.
336
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,140
So whose it in, then? The killer's?
337
00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:07,390
Did they bring it with them?
338
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,040
If they brought blood with
them, that requires organisation.
339
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,210
You bleed a victim, you store
it, knowing you're gonna use it.
340
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,356
If that's the case, why
ransack the living rooms?
341
00:25:18,380 --> 00:25:21,216
See, they would be
slower, more methodical.
342
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,940
So, no...
343
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,430
It's definitely
the killer's blood.
344
00:25:26,490 --> 00:25:28,690
- Find anything else?
- Only urine.
345
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,080
- Both houses?
- Yeah.
346
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,650
- Where?
- Living rooms.
347
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,466
We're having the urine DNA-tested,
but there's very little chance...
348
00:25:40,490 --> 00:25:42,366
Where was it? Was it...
349
00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:44,696
on something specific? Or
sprayed around the room?
350
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,610
Whoever it was pissed
themselves, isn't that enough?
351
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:51,250
No, what if it
belongs to the killer?
352
00:25:51,700 --> 00:25:53,056
Weren't you looking for a link?
353
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,706
Tony, urine isn't a link.
354
00:25:54,730 --> 00:25:57,470
It's found at virtually
every robbery or break-in.
355
00:25:58,180 --> 00:25:59,656
Yeah, but here it's murder.
356
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,210
Same killer or not, the fact that
they urinated tells us something.
357
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,000
It either was a conscious
act of defilement, or
358
00:26:07,270 --> 00:26:09,170
they wet themselves out of fear.
359
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,986
We've taken samples from
Tom Reece and his girlfriend.
360
00:26:14,010 --> 00:26:16,000
I have a statement
about her movements.
361
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,126
Her alibi is that she was with Tom.
362
00:26:18,150 --> 00:26:20,650
- What's she like?
- Young, sweet...
363
00:26:21,010 --> 00:26:22,870
every married woman's nightmare.
364
00:26:23,860 --> 00:26:25,146
Forensic asked me to give you this.
365
00:26:25,170 --> 00:26:28,246
It's the boot print from the
Treadman range of work boots.
366
00:26:28,270 --> 00:26:31,376
Size 10. Apparently, the
sole shows hardly any wear,
367
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,686
so it's a recent purchase.
368
00:26:32,710 --> 00:26:34,176
I'm on to all the local outlets.
369
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,966
Good. How's the DNA
search on the blood?
370
00:26:36,990 --> 00:26:38,786
And can you hurry them up on the urine?
371
00:26:38,810 --> 00:26:40,506
That'll be at least 48 hours.
372
00:26:40,530 --> 00:26:42,216
Two days? I can
get my dry-cleaning
373
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,556
- done quicker than that!
- And that's the fast-track service.
374
00:26:45,580 --> 00:26:47,650
Oh, and Eden said
he wants to see you.
375
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,930
Great! No doubt I'm over budget.
376
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,830
Can it be the same person?
377
00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:41,830
And how?
378
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,176
Where's the report that
says where they urinated?
379
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,650
Carol's office.
380
00:27:55,490 --> 00:27:59,440
Hi. I was wondering if I
could order some flowers.
381
00:28:17,860 --> 00:28:19,146
I've got something.
382
00:28:19,170 --> 00:28:21,006
After the conversation
I've just had with Eden,
383
00:28:21,030 --> 00:28:24,740
- I could almost hug you.
- Right.
384
00:28:25,660 --> 00:28:29,190
This is Marion Reece leaving
the mall and going to her car.
385
00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:35,670
This is her car, leaving the car park and
wait for it...
386
00:28:36,860 --> 00:28:39,780
The car is registered
to a Stuart John Davey.
387
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:41,926
Kevin Geoffries,
388
00:28:41,950 --> 00:28:43,720
you're a genius.
389
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,830
He reported it stolen
from Mountfield car park
390
00:28:47,890 --> 00:28:49,830
- on the morning of her murder.
- Is it genuine?
391
00:28:50,030 --> 00:28:51,926
- Yeah.
- Circulate the numberplate.
392
00:28:51,950 --> 00:28:53,510
We need to find that car.
393
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,836
This is my office, Tony.
394
00:29:06,860 --> 00:29:08,480
It's got my name on the door.
395
00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:11,296
I'm sorry. I was looking for the
description of the urine sites.
396
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,570
It was a puddle in both cases.
397
00:29:15,060 --> 00:29:16,516
- A puddle?
- Yeah, Very likely
398
00:29:16,540 --> 00:29:18,376
both victims wet
themselves. It happens.
399
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,076
Not necessarily. I rang the lab.
400
00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:22,676
They've done a
provisional test for DNA
401
00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:24,270
on both the urine samples.
402
00:29:24,330 --> 00:29:27,206
- There's no DNA in either.
- OK. As we expected.
403
00:29:27,230 --> 00:29:29,156
No. You're missing the point.
404
00:29:29,180 --> 00:29:31,426
How? DNA is hardly
ever present in urine.
405
00:29:31,450 --> 00:29:33,640
No, but it is if you've got cancer.
406
00:29:38,030 --> 00:29:39,386
So it wasn't the victim's.
407
00:29:39,410 --> 00:29:41,680
So her killer DID
piss on the floor.
408
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,790
But that doesn't make sense.
409
00:29:43,850 --> 00:29:45,626
I mean, they battered
a woman to death,
410
00:29:45,650 --> 00:29:47,186
they threw an ironing board on her,
411
00:29:47,210 --> 00:29:49,466
they jumped on it, wrote
in blood on the fridge.
412
00:29:49,490 --> 00:29:52,056
Does that sound like a person who
would pee in a puddle on the floor?
413
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,026
I mean, this person is
celebrating what they're doing.
414
00:29:54,050 --> 00:29:55,506
They'd spray it
everywhere, over everything.
415
00:29:55,530 --> 00:29:57,940
"Screw you. Screw you."
416
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,250
- Could I have a word?
- Yeah. Sure.
417
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:12,926
They just had a call.
418
00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:15,120
A lad went missing
last night. They've...
419
00:30:16,610 --> 00:30:18,950
They've just found his
body off the Old York Road.
420
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,010
What is it, Kev?
421
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,970
Kenneth Gray disappeared
two months ago.
422
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,940
I just wanted to know if you
thought this was his type of crime.
423
00:30:30,620 --> 00:30:32,520
Look at Gray's crimes.
424
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,110
An abuse of children in his care.
425
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,210
He was a teacher,
426
00:30:37,550 --> 00:30:38,866
special-needs school.
427
00:30:38,890 --> 00:30:40,690
Position of trust.
428
00:30:41,380 --> 00:30:43,700
He did it because he
could get away with it.
429
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,366
It's a huge leap
for him to become an
430
00:30:46,390 --> 00:30:48,000
abductor and murderer.
431
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,570
No.
432
00:30:50,180 --> 00:30:51,630
No, not him.
433
00:30:53,020 --> 00:30:54,560
Oh, unless...
434
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,690
did he try and cover
the body in any way?
435
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,760
Tony, there's something
we haven't told you.
436
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,170
I should sit.
437
00:31:20,620 --> 00:31:22,070
Thank you.
438
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,286
You've seen dismembered bodies
before.
439
00:31:25,310 --> 00:31:26,940
Well, yeah...
440
00:31:28,020 --> 00:31:29,770
Sorry. Doesn't it affect you?
441
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,446
You know it does.
442
00:31:31,470 --> 00:31:33,180
Sorry, Carol, I...
443
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,530
Don't be.
444
00:31:36,650 --> 00:31:38,750
At least it shows you're human.
445
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,560
Is there a motive here or
is this just plain sick?
446
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,510
Even the sickest
crimes have motives.
447
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,056
The choice of this
young victim would
448
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,966
usually indicate
sexual interference.
449
00:31:52,990 --> 00:31:55,340
But definitely not Kenneth Gray.
450
00:31:56,250 --> 00:31:58,270
More likely one of ours.
451
00:31:58,980 --> 00:32:00,526
These murders have
to be linked, Tony.
452
00:32:00,550 --> 00:32:03,296
This level of depravity
can't be coincidence.
453
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,776
Logically, yes, but we've got
454
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,216
different psychologies at work.
455
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,760
The choice of
victims, the methods...
456
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,356
Also, there's no refinement.
457
00:32:10,380 --> 00:32:13,860
There's no learning or
adjustment of technique. It's...
458
00:32:16,260 --> 00:32:19,270
How can somewhere so beautiful
be the scene of such horror?
459
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,526
They found this.
460
00:32:24,550 --> 00:32:27,190
It was next to a tree
stump, just over there.
461
00:32:32,780 --> 00:32:35,360
- Where, exactly?
- What is it, a whistle?
462
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,290
Get Forensics to check
the area for fibres.
463
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,060
Have you got a bag?
464
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,150
You ever make these as a child?
465
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,430
Someone spent time here.
466
00:33:55,220 --> 00:33:56,506
Anyone could have done that.
467
00:33:56,530 --> 00:33:58,050
They could have been here for days.
468
00:33:58,650 --> 00:34:01,390
No. The moment you break the
leaf, it exposes the chlorophyll.
469
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,230
It starts to decay.
470
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,110
That was done recently.
471
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,846
But how could they do that, having
472
00:34:06,870 --> 00:34:08,320
done what they did over there?
473
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:10,650
You can't.
474
00:34:11,350 --> 00:34:13,436
It's a confusion between the
psychotic and psychopathic.
475
00:34:13,460 --> 00:34:16,500
You fall on one side or the
other, you can't fall on both.
476
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,800
Well, maybe that's
part of the answer.
477
00:34:20,140 --> 00:34:21,896
Here we are trying to
reconcile something in
478
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,090
each of these cases
that is irreconcilable.
479
00:34:25,240 --> 00:34:26,926
Well, maybe that is
what reconciles it.
480
00:34:26,950 --> 00:34:29,170
That is what puts it together.
481
00:34:31,260 --> 00:34:34,370
The irreconcilable is
present at all three cases.
482
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,430
It gives us a link.
483
00:34:39,580 --> 00:34:41,686
They've found the Vauxhall.
Match for the chassi's number.
484
00:34:41,710 --> 00:34:43,640
It's on our way
back to the station.
485
00:34:47,740 --> 00:34:49,026
I suppose it was too
much to hope they'd
486
00:34:49,050 --> 00:34:50,570
leave it in one piece.
487
00:34:52,260 --> 00:34:53,710
Over here!
488
00:34:56,180 --> 00:34:58,300
What's so special about it?
489
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,300
It belonged to Marion
Reece's children.
490
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,560
15 years old, Carol!
491
00:35:30,250 --> 00:35:31,700
Fifteen!
492
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,750
What am I gonna tell his parents?
493
00:35:42,060 --> 00:35:44,240
What the hell am I
gonna tell the press?
494
00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:48,190
What am I gonna tell every
other parent in this city?
495
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,136
We do have reason to believe
these killings are linked.
496
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,610
Oh, do you?
497
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,716
Well, I give you
fair warning, Carol.
498
00:35:57,740 --> 00:36:00,110
If you're not up to
this investigation,
499
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,860
I'll have no hesitation in
finding another officer who is.
500
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,840
Then we'll see how you like it,
501
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,320
having someone else crawl
all over your mistakes.
502
00:37:30,510 --> 00:37:31,846
I've got it.
503
00:37:31,870 --> 00:37:33,526
The scene of crime... it's there.
504
00:37:33,550 --> 00:37:36,076
You have to know what you're
looking for, but it's there.
505
00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:38,006
Tony, slow down. What's there?
506
00:37:38,030 --> 00:37:39,860
The killer's personality.
507
00:37:41,290 --> 00:37:42,766
It IS the same killer.
508
00:37:42,790 --> 00:37:44,360
Are you sure?
509
00:37:45,050 --> 00:37:46,500
I think so.
510
00:37:46,690 --> 00:37:48,330
Lured.
511
00:37:49,990 --> 00:37:51,440
Abducted.
512
00:37:51,830 --> 00:37:53,340
Dismembered.
513
00:37:54,810 --> 00:37:56,096
I know I thought it couldn't be and
514
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,560
and I don't know why they're
killing in different ways, but...
515
00:37:59,990 --> 00:38:01,440
yeah, I'm sure.
516
00:38:02,410 --> 00:38:04,446
It's in their personality. On
one hand, you've got torture,
517
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:07,536
dismemberment, sexual
sadism and psychopathy.
518
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,520
Whilst on the other,
you've got a stick whistle,
519
00:38:10,220 --> 00:38:11,670
leaf squares...
520
00:38:13,110 --> 00:38:15,496
a book on dinosaurs,
building bricks,
521
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,930
blood-stained
fridge magnets and...
522
00:38:19,830 --> 00:38:21,540
...puddles of urine.
523
00:38:23,490 --> 00:38:24,940
That's what we've been fighting:
524
00:38:25,710 --> 00:38:27,326
a quintessential dichotomy.
525
00:38:27,350 --> 00:38:29,516
They're not compatible:
torture... leaf squares,
526
00:38:29,540 --> 00:38:32,040
sexual sadism...
a book on dinosaurs.
527
00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:34,406
Someone with schizophrenia?
528
00:38:34,430 --> 00:38:36,436
Well, it's possible in
most personality disorder
529
00:38:36,460 --> 00:38:38,140
but that's not what we've got here.
530
00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:41,616
If we did, the confusion in
their personalitywould show itself
531
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,380
in what they did with the victims' bodies.
532
00:38:43,830 --> 00:38:45,266
So, what have we got here, then?
533
00:38:45,290 --> 00:38:46,740
Two people.
534
00:38:48,230 --> 00:38:50,000
There's two personalities.
535
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:53,600
One doing the killing and the
other waiting in a room or...
536
00:38:54,050 --> 00:38:56,860
nearby on a tree stump.
537
00:38:57,850 --> 00:38:59,476
I still don't know why
they're killing in one way
538
00:38:59,500 --> 00:39:03,300
and then the other, but,
yeah, this all fits.
539
00:39:04,710 --> 00:39:06,160
It's a couple.
540
00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:12,710
I understand you stock the Treadman
range of work boots, is that right?
541
00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:14,986
Sorry. Bradfield CID.
542
00:39:15,010 --> 00:39:17,230
I'll get the manageress.
543
00:39:19,870 --> 00:39:25,240
Pairs of killers have
one of two relationships.
544
00:39:26,990 --> 00:39:29,700
Equal, where everything is shared.
545
00:39:30,290 --> 00:39:34,056
The search, the capture,
the murder, the trophy phase,
546
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,240
even the depression
cycle afterwards.
547
00:39:36,330 --> 00:39:37,780
The other...
548
00:39:38,270 --> 00:39:40,150
is what I believe we have here.
549
00:39:40,590 --> 00:39:43,100
An unequal partnership.
550
00:39:43,570 --> 00:39:45,020
One dominant...
551
00:39:45,870 --> 00:39:47,960
...and one submissive.
552
00:39:49,370 --> 00:39:51,380
It's called "folie a deux".
553
00:39:52,430 --> 00:39:54,126
It's where two people come together
554
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:57,570
and one transfers his or
her delusions onto the other
555
00:39:57,830 --> 00:40:02,160
and gradually they become
one person with one purpose.
556
00:40:03,230 --> 00:40:05,880
Something similar happens
in normal love affairs.
557
00:40:06,810 --> 00:40:09,200
Once you're inside the
killings, perfect example -
558
00:40:10,130 --> 00:40:11,720
Brady and Hindley.
559
00:40:11,830 --> 00:40:15,446
Perhaps Rosemary and Fred West,
but the jury thought otherwise.
560
00:40:15,470 --> 00:40:18,380
So, what do we have? A
man and a woman or two men?
561
00:40:19,270 --> 00:40:21,226
I don't know, Kevin.
562
00:40:21,250 --> 00:40:24,920
What I do know is that whilst one
of our pair is torturing and killing,
563
00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:28,220
the other is wetting
themselves in fear
564
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,170
or playing in the
living room next door or
565
00:40:31,290 --> 00:40:32,646
or nearby on a tree stump.
566
00:40:32,670 --> 00:40:35,186
Are you suggesting one
of our killers is a child?
567
00:40:35,210 --> 00:40:37,320
Emotionally, yes.
568
00:40:37,490 --> 00:40:40,340
I'd say the submissive
partner has a mental age of 12.
569
00:40:58,150 --> 00:41:01,400
In pairs, the submissive will
always try and please the dominant.
570
00:41:01,810 --> 00:41:05,100
The dominant will always have
someone that will do as they say,
571
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:07,246
someone who won't question them.
572
00:41:07,270 --> 00:41:08,996
So, they both get
something out of it.
573
00:41:09,020 --> 00:41:10,470
Yeah,
574
00:41:11,450 --> 00:41:14,420
like everyone else, we all
need someone to rely on.
575
00:41:14,650 --> 00:41:16,840
But these relationships
are doomed to fail.
576
00:41:17,070 --> 00:41:19,870
Why? Because one doesn't
understand the need of the other?
577
00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:23,640
No, because as the dominant
escalates his or her behaviour,
578
00:41:24,550 --> 00:41:27,036
it increases the guilt
felt by the submissive.
579
00:41:27,060 --> 00:41:30,176
- A gap opens up between them.
- What sort of gap?
580
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,256
One person happy with
the way things are going,
581
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,340
and the other becoming
more disillusioned.
582
00:41:37,590 --> 00:41:39,400
Sounds like a marriage.
583
00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:43,700
The trouble is, the more
the gap widens between them,
584
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,756
the more at risk the submissive is.
585
00:41:45,780 --> 00:41:47,796
So, the dominant could
kill the submissive?
586
00:41:47,820 --> 00:41:49,270
Oh, yeah.
587
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,770
Guv!
588
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:53,616
We've got the blood grouping
on Tom Reece and his girlfriend.
589
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,040
It's definitely not their
blood on the fridge door.
590
00:41:57,170 --> 00:41:58,620
Whose is it, then?
591
00:42:05,870 --> 00:42:08,860
- Where are you going?
- Back to the flat.
592
00:42:11,070 --> 00:42:14,510
Wrong side of the road for
that. The flat's that side.
593
00:42:15,650 --> 00:42:17,530
I wasn't thinking.
594
00:42:29,310 --> 00:42:30,760
Better.
595
00:42:35,630 --> 00:42:39,050
Tony, doesn't it ever bother you
that we only ever talk about work?
596
00:42:42,610 --> 00:42:45,280
I'm not the world's
greatest at chitchat, Carol.
597
00:42:47,710 --> 00:42:50,520
No, neither am I.
598
00:42:52,430 --> 00:42:55,100
- Good night, Tony.
- Good night, Carol.
599
00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:53,200
DS Harry Winter.
600
00:43:53,270 --> 00:43:55,076
- Hi. Harry,
- Yeah.
601
00:43:55,100 --> 00:43:56,740
It's Carol Jordan.
602
00:43:57,110 --> 00:43:58,560
Oh, hi.
603
00:44:00,930 --> 00:44:03,796
I was just going through
the Kenneth Gray case review
604
00:44:03,820 --> 00:44:06,100
and I had a few questions for you.
605
00:44:06,610 --> 00:44:08,026
OK.
606
00:44:08,050 --> 00:44:11,150
I also needed to
hear a friendly voice.
607
00:44:11,890 --> 00:44:13,176
Patricia?
608
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,460
Tony, thank you so
much for the flowers.
609
00:44:17,690 --> 00:44:20,236
- Flowers?
- They are so beautiful.
610
00:44:20,260 --> 00:44:22,120
They must have cost a fortune.
611
00:44:22,690 --> 00:44:24,086
They probably did.
612
00:44:24,110 --> 00:44:25,560
Tony...
613
00:44:27,190 --> 00:44:31,140
I know how hard it is for
you to say anything in public.
614
00:44:31,590 --> 00:44:35,726
That's why it is just so sweet you
found this way to express yourself.
615
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:40,400
I want to say... I know how
you feel about me and it's OK.
616
00:44:41,950 --> 00:44:43,680
I feel it, too.
617
00:44:45,190 --> 00:44:47,280
And how do we feel?
618
00:44:47,690 --> 00:44:49,506
When are you coming
up to York again?
619
00:44:49,530 --> 00:44:52,380
We've got a lot on at the moment.
620
00:44:53,620 --> 00:44:55,726
I think it'd be
really good if we met.
621
00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:58,510
Well, I did come over,
but you weren't there.
622
00:44:58,550 --> 00:45:01,246
I worry about you.
You work too hard.
623
00:45:01,270 --> 00:45:02,720
It's what I do.
624
00:45:03,430 --> 00:45:05,166
How about dinner? I'll come over.
625
00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:09,336
No. I'll come to you. Remind me,
where are you staying at again?
626
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,146
Would be good to see you.
627
00:45:11,170 --> 00:45:12,620
Yeah.
628
00:45:13,940 --> 00:45:16,390
- Bye.
- Bye.
629
00:45:23,580 --> 00:45:25,220
Good night, Tony.
630
00:45:26,810 --> 00:45:28,820
Yeah, good night.
631
00:45:36,220 --> 00:45:37,960
"Case Studies:
De Clerambault's Syndrome"
632
00:45:46,110 --> 00:45:47,560
You want a beer?
633
00:46:07,610 --> 00:46:09,490
And how are you this morning?
634
00:46:10,380 --> 00:46:12,116
Good. And you?
635
00:46:12,140 --> 00:46:13,590
Yeah, good.
636
00:46:14,090 --> 00:46:17,366
Urine sample results from
Marion Reece and Josef Paul.
637
00:46:17,390 --> 00:46:21,600
Both had traces of marijuana and
speed, but no oestrogen at all.
638
00:46:22,060 --> 00:46:23,560
- No oestrogen?
- No.
639
00:46:23,790 --> 00:46:26,220
That makes the
submissive partner male.
640
00:46:27,810 --> 00:46:29,260
And the dominant?
641
00:46:30,350 --> 00:46:32,580
Male or female?
642
00:46:33,310 --> 00:46:35,270
That's the big question.
643
00:46:35,710 --> 00:46:37,960
No prints on the dinosaur book.
644
00:46:38,050 --> 00:46:39,550
The rain destroyed them.
645
00:46:39,690 --> 00:46:42,400
Domination bases itself
on low self-esteem.
646
00:46:42,860 --> 00:46:44,576
Those who dominate do so through
647
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,400
their own weakness
and vulnerability.
648
00:46:47,250 --> 00:46:49,546
New monkeys in a troop don't
get beaten up by the Alpha Male,
649
00:46:49,570 --> 00:46:51,310
but by the lowest-ranking ones.
650
00:46:51,850 --> 00:46:54,490
"At last, here's
something we can dominate."
651
00:46:54,810 --> 00:46:56,096
So that's why they
nick windscreen
652
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,020
wipers at the safari park.
653
00:46:58,690 --> 00:47:01,080
A mental age of 12.
654
00:47:01,430 --> 00:47:04,026
Is there anything here that
tells us how old they really are?
655
00:47:04,050 --> 00:47:05,336
Well, that's what's
so confusing.
656
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,420
We have three
completely different MOs.
657
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:10,800
The person who killed
Marion Reece...
658
00:47:10,970 --> 00:47:13,570
should be 26/27.
659
00:47:15,210 --> 00:47:17,540
A sexual psychopath
with sexual dysfunctions.
660
00:47:19,290 --> 00:47:21,396
The dominant here
could be male or female.
661
00:47:21,420 --> 00:47:23,956
And the person who kill
Josef Paul would be older,
662
00:47:23,980 --> 00:47:25,336
because of what they did to him.
663
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,160
No, younger.
664
00:47:27,710 --> 00:47:28,996
When an elderly
person is the victim,
665
00:47:29,020 --> 00:47:31,066
you start with a base age of 19.
666
00:47:31,090 --> 00:47:33,040
Kids are like monkeys.
667
00:47:33,500 --> 00:47:35,980
They take it out on the old
and the weak because they can.
668
00:47:36,450 --> 00:47:38,760
And again the dominant
here could be male...
669
00:47:41,490 --> 00:47:42,940
...or female.
670
00:47:43,850 --> 00:47:45,266
But Andy Parks was killed and
671
00:47:45,290 --> 00:47:47,900
dismembered by a man in his 30s...
672
00:47:50,810 --> 00:47:53,280
...who was attracted
to late-pubescent boys.
673
00:47:53,330 --> 00:47:55,870
Three different murders
by the same people,
674
00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:57,236
with completely different
675
00:47:57,260 --> 00:47:59,560
psychological
profiles and fantasies.
676
00:48:01,250 --> 00:48:02,700
It can't happen,
677
00:48:02,940 --> 00:48:04,390
but it did.
678
00:48:05,050 --> 00:48:09,240
So the fantasy isn't
performing its function, is it?
679
00:48:11,050 --> 00:48:12,946
Well, you know, "Tying
her up didn't do it for me,
680
00:48:12,970 --> 00:48:14,256
so let's try the bin bag.
681
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,140
No, that's not working, either.
Let's dismember the body..."
682
00:48:17,410 --> 00:48:20,760
But all the time, it's
changing. Change, change, change.
683
00:48:22,210 --> 00:48:23,660
Maybe...
684
00:48:23,870 --> 00:48:25,666
for some reason, each victim has
685
00:48:25,690 --> 00:48:28,050
has to be killed
in a different way.
686
00:48:32,270 --> 00:48:34,346
Yeah, maybe that's it.
687
00:48:34,370 --> 00:48:36,600
Maybe that's the ritual.
688
00:48:37,330 --> 00:48:40,140
Each one in a different
way is the fantasy!
689
00:48:41,770 --> 00:48:44,840
So, which of these pairs...
690
00:48:46,590 --> 00:48:48,040
...is it?
691
00:48:48,670 --> 00:48:50,850
How do two people go through that?
692
00:48:51,930 --> 00:48:53,376
Well, like all
relationships, Carol.
693
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:54,686
Strength from adversity.
694
00:48:54,710 --> 00:48:56,660
We've spent a long time together.
695
00:48:58,170 --> 00:49:01,150
Went to school together,
in prison together...
696
00:49:02,650 --> 00:49:04,760
In bed together...
697
00:49:05,490 --> 00:49:08,026
And if we are lovers, the
relationship will be abusive.
698
00:49:08,050 --> 00:49:10,610
What about that gap?
699
00:49:10,810 --> 00:49:12,346
Has that opened up between us?
700
00:49:12,370 --> 00:49:13,786
Well, if it doesn't,
it's only a matter
701
00:49:13,810 --> 00:49:15,460
of time before it does.
702
00:49:16,450 --> 00:49:17,900
One moment.
703
00:49:18,370 --> 00:49:19,820
Sorry. Dr. Hill.
704
00:49:21,350 --> 00:49:22,646
For God's sake, what now?
705
00:49:22,670 --> 00:49:24,540
It's a woman who
says she's your wife.
706
00:49:35,570 --> 00:49:37,020
Hello.
707
00:49:37,810 --> 00:49:39,366
No, of course I won't forget.
708
00:49:39,390 --> 00:49:42,200
What was it, a wedding
chapel in Vegas?
709
00:49:47,490 --> 00:49:49,266
De Clerambault's Syndrome.
710
00:49:49,290 --> 00:49:51,046
Monodelusional primary
erotomania.
711
00:49:51,070 --> 00:49:53,816
Tony, married or not, it's
got nothing to do with me.
712
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,926
This woman thinks she's
having a relationship with me.
713
00:49:55,950 --> 00:49:57,700
Yes, sure she does. Yeah.
714
00:49:58,550 --> 00:50:01,886
I met her once! If I deny
it or marginalise her,
715
00:50:01,910 --> 00:50:04,480
she is prone to violent
or dangerous behaviour.
716
00:50:06,090 --> 00:50:08,300
Trust me, Carol! This woman
is capable of anything.
717
00:50:09,010 --> 00:50:12,060
Tony, why is nothing
ever simple with you?
718
00:50:33,970 --> 00:50:35,266
Carol Jordan.
719
00:50:35,290 --> 00:50:37,040
I just thought you'd like to know.
720
00:50:37,490 --> 00:50:40,236
The sea just washed up
the body of Kenneth Gray.
721
00:50:40,260 --> 00:50:43,080
- How did he die?
- The poor guy was shot.
722
00:50:43,660 --> 00:50:46,420
But only after he was
hideously tortured.
723
00:50:48,490 --> 00:50:51,080
He's been found on the
beach, further up the coast.
724
00:50:51,530 --> 00:50:54,310
He went missing in York.
725
00:50:54,570 --> 00:50:56,956
Andy Parks was found here,
726
00:50:56,980 --> 00:50:58,940
off the Old York Road.
727
00:50:59,450 --> 00:51:01,730
Killers operate in
locations they know.
728
00:51:06,670 --> 00:51:07,986
Sir.
729
00:51:08,010 --> 00:51:09,886
- Good to see you again.
- Hi.
730
00:51:09,910 --> 00:51:12,800
- This is Dr. Tony Hill.
- DS Harry Winter.
731
00:51:15,130 --> 00:51:18,650
We think he's been in the water for
the two months he's been missing.
732
00:51:18,810 --> 00:51:20,096
He was probably dead before
733
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,680
anyone noticed he'd gone.
734
00:51:22,130 --> 00:51:23,416
What's your interest in him?
735
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,340
We have cases that
share some similarities.
736
00:51:26,990 --> 00:51:29,286
Hands tied behind his back.
It's like an execution.
737
00:51:29,310 --> 00:51:31,140
Single bullet to the head.
738
00:51:31,930 --> 00:51:34,256
Killed for what he
did, or a random victim?
739
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,046
Don't know. If you
want revenge on him,
740
00:51:36,070 --> 00:51:39,700
why go on and kill Marion
Reece, Josef Paul and Andy Parks?
741
00:51:40,010 --> 00:51:41,306
What have they done to you?
742
00:51:41,330 --> 00:51:43,166
Have we any idea where
the killing took place?
743
00:51:43,190 --> 00:51:45,260
- No.
- You said he'd been tortured.
744
00:51:45,830 --> 00:51:47,116
These marks on his body -
745
00:51:47,140 --> 00:51:50,540
the pathologist believes he was
pelted with rocks before he died.
746
00:51:52,290 --> 00:51:54,100
Harry? Your wife's on the phone.
747
00:52:01,330 --> 00:52:03,270
You think they're connected?
748
00:52:04,130 --> 00:52:05,916
Well, the signature level
of torture's the same.
749
00:52:05,940 --> 00:52:08,240
There's a complete change
in method. Could be.
750
00:52:08,890 --> 00:52:11,160
And if it is, it
predates the killings.
751
00:52:12,750 --> 00:52:14,036
The discovery of Andy Parks' body
752
00:52:14,060 --> 00:52:18,140
gives us a corridor of them operating
between the sea and Bradfield.
753
00:52:19,390 --> 00:52:22,046
But Gray's history as a sex
offender clouds the issue.
754
00:52:22,070 --> 00:52:23,820
There is one thing -
755
00:52:26,710 --> 00:52:28,310
I've seen this before.
756
00:52:28,590 --> 00:52:31,440
I don't know where, I don't
know how, but I've seen it.
757
00:52:31,990 --> 00:52:33,460
I just know I've seen it.
758
00:52:33,950 --> 00:52:35,400
Where?
759
00:52:35,450 --> 00:52:37,010
Previous case? One
of your patients?
760
00:52:37,580 --> 00:52:38,866
Don't know.
761
00:52:38,890 --> 00:52:40,340
Carol?
762
00:52:41,410 --> 00:52:43,080
I can explain.
763
00:52:47,890 --> 00:52:49,556
Carol mentioned a gap
764
00:52:49,580 --> 00:52:51,546
might have opened
between the two killers.
765
00:52:51,570 --> 00:52:53,006
Yes. Well...
766
00:52:53,030 --> 00:52:54,706
as the dominant gets
more out of control,
767
00:52:54,730 --> 00:52:57,616
the submissive can
feel some sort of guilt.
768
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,356
Then we need to exploit that.
769
00:52:59,380 --> 00:53:02,370
We'll need to make a direct
appeal to the submissive partner.
770
00:53:02,980 --> 00:53:04,516
If you put pressure
on this relationship,
771
00:53:04,540 --> 00:53:05,990
anything can happen.
772
00:53:06,170 --> 00:53:09,666
The only guarantee I'll give is the
dominant will kill the submissive.
773
00:53:09,690 --> 00:53:12,900
My duty is to protect the public
from them, not them from each other.
774
00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:14,506
Then you'll fail in that duty.
775
00:53:14,530 --> 00:53:16,360
Because what happens after that
776
00:53:16,610 --> 00:53:18,800
is beyond anyone's control.
777
00:53:24,810 --> 00:53:26,260
Ready?
778
00:53:28,890 --> 00:53:30,316
I'm sorry the food wasn't hot!
779
00:53:30,340 --> 00:53:32,500
It was my fault! I'm sorry!
780
00:53:44,210 --> 00:53:45,660
Tony Hill.
781
00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:47,170
I waited.
782
00:53:47,470 --> 00:53:48,920
You never came.
783
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:51,730
Patricia?
784
00:53:53,590 --> 00:53:54,926
Sorry. I forgot.
785
00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:58,770
Tony, there's no point pretending.
I know why you didn't come.
786
00:54:00,260 --> 00:54:02,036
All you're doing is protecting
787
00:54:02,060 --> 00:54:04,276
the people who are
hurting you, Tony.
788
00:54:04,300 --> 00:54:06,370
They're not worth it.
789
00:54:08,370 --> 00:54:09,820
Patricia?
790
00:54:10,890 --> 00:54:12,286
You need help.
791
00:54:12,310 --> 00:54:14,400
We all need help, Tony.
792
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,596
I'm trying to help you.
793
00:54:16,620 --> 00:54:18,286
I just think
you should talk to someone.
794
00:54:18,310 --> 00:54:19,970
I know people.
795
00:54:20,670 --> 00:54:22,120
I'll come with you.
796
00:54:23,230 --> 00:54:25,300
She's told you to
say this, hasn't she?
797
00:54:25,990 --> 00:54:28,240
- Who?
- That woman.
798
00:54:28,850 --> 00:54:30,570
Is that who you were with?
799
00:54:31,130 --> 00:54:33,620
- No.
- Don't lie to me, Tony.
800
00:54:34,690 --> 00:54:36,600
I saw you together.
801
00:54:44,170 --> 00:54:45,620
Carol.
802
00:55:35,240 --> 00:55:36,690
Carol?
803
00:56:06,210 --> 00:56:07,720
Thank God.
804
00:56:15,810 --> 00:56:17,366
Thank you.
All right?
805
00:56:17,390 --> 00:56:20,186
- Hiya.
- Hiya. Can I have a bottle...
806
00:56:20,210 --> 00:56:22,146
I expected her to kill your cat.
807
00:56:22,170 --> 00:56:24,146
Well, destroy something
you care about.
808
00:56:24,170 --> 00:56:25,750
He hid under my bed.
809
00:56:28,090 --> 00:56:29,810
Have you ever had a pet?
810
00:56:30,730 --> 00:56:32,320
Not even as a child?
811
00:56:32,650 --> 00:56:34,100
No.
812
00:56:34,130 --> 00:56:37,740
So apart from your parents, you've
never loved another living thing?
813
00:56:40,050 --> 00:56:42,110
- I've been close.
- How close?
814
00:56:43,710 --> 00:56:45,026
When?
815
00:56:45,050 --> 00:56:47,366
- Carol...
- Why can't you answer?
816
00:56:47,390 --> 00:56:49,240
It's a simple question.
817
00:56:49,890 --> 00:56:51,530
Are you ashamed?
818
00:56:54,910 --> 00:56:56,360
You...
819
00:56:59,420 --> 00:57:00,870
You!
820
00:57:01,770 --> 00:57:03,580
Yeah, it's you.
821
00:57:11,650 --> 00:57:14,240
Yeah, it's him. He did it.
822
00:57:22,130 --> 00:57:23,566
I'm really not in
the mood for a film.
823
00:57:23,590 --> 00:57:26,900
If you want to join, I need an
electricity bill or your council tax.
824
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,006
Is your husband all right?
825
00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:36,506
I'm going back to my flat.
826
00:57:36,530 --> 00:57:38,026
What? No - stay.
827
00:57:38,050 --> 00:57:40,010
Do you remember a scene
in something where...
828
00:57:40,070 --> 00:57:42,060
some guy is taken to a beach.
829
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,460
He has his hands tied.
830
00:57:45,610 --> 00:57:47,060
Had rocks thrown at him.
831
00:57:48,260 --> 00:57:49,546
I think the guy in
the window's in it.
832
00:57:49,570 --> 00:57:51,020
And then shot through the head?
833
00:57:51,250 --> 00:57:53,670
- "Fallen Justice."
- "Fallen Justice."
834
00:57:54,450 --> 00:57:55,996
Are you saying you think Gray
835
00:57:56,020 --> 00:57:58,266
was killed in the same way
as the man in that film?
836
00:57:58,290 --> 00:58:00,526
- I knew I'd seen it.
- It was on telly a few months back.
837
00:58:00,550 --> 00:58:01,836
A few months?
838
00:58:01,860 --> 00:58:03,726
- That'd be about right.
- Could it be two months?
839
00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:05,230
Yeah. Two months.
840
00:58:05,690 --> 00:58:07,760
I watched it. It was all right.
841
00:58:10,970 --> 00:58:12,930
What about an old guy
842
00:58:13,150 --> 00:58:14,946
with a bin bag over
his head and torso
843
00:58:14,970 --> 00:58:16,940
and strangled?
844
00:58:17,450 --> 00:58:19,220
"Motor City Murder."
845
00:58:21,590 --> 00:58:23,416
That's why the way
they killed differed.
846
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,670
They committed other
people's murders.
847
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:27,036
Makes sense.
848
00:58:27,060 --> 00:58:29,186
Well, it might make sense, Tony,
849
00:58:29,210 --> 00:58:31,770
but we've got only got a
bloke in a video shop's word.
850
00:58:32,620 --> 00:58:34,446
I mean, how do we know
Josef Paul's murder
851
00:58:34,470 --> 00:58:37,480
was a scene from some
Detroit cop show on cable?
852
00:58:37,690 --> 00:58:39,176
How do you know that
Andy Parks was killed
853
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,260
the same way as a
teen slasher movie?
854
00:58:41,330 --> 00:58:43,660
Well, we go to a movie
database, and we...
855
00:58:44,210 --> 00:58:46,790
type the keywords of
each of the murders.
856
00:59:00,210 --> 00:59:02,096
Friday the 13th.
857
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,240
Yeah. What they're doing
is recreating the deaths.
858
00:59:37,530 --> 00:59:39,430
Right, how old are they?
859
00:59:43,650 --> 00:59:45,716
Video literate, but not mature
860
00:59:45,740 --> 00:59:48,140
or sophisticated enough
to think for themselves.
861
00:59:51,090 --> 00:59:54,630
Base age of 19, add two years
for organisation and planning.
862
00:59:56,450 --> 00:59:57,736
Both 21.
863
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,186
The dominant
definitely around that,
864
00:59:59,210 --> 01:00:00,780
the submissive maybe younger.
865
01:00:01,690 --> 01:00:03,076
And the dominant is male?
866
01:00:03,100 --> 01:00:05,286
Dominant young
females are obsessive.
867
01:00:05,310 --> 01:00:08,036
It's likely she'd want the
scene carried out exactly.
868
01:00:08,060 --> 01:00:10,116
Also a female dominant
with a male submissive
869
01:00:10,140 --> 01:00:12,186
would choose women as victims.
870
01:00:12,210 --> 01:00:14,650
So it's a male-male partnership?
871
01:00:16,310 --> 01:00:18,840
And why wasn't Marion Reece raped?
872
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,140
You know, they could
have gone a step further.
873
01:00:22,370 --> 01:00:25,270
Why all this rage?
Why all this anger?
874
01:00:29,900 --> 01:00:32,700
Mac? Wake up, please.
875
01:00:37,370 --> 01:00:39,720
Rage and anger.
876
01:01:00,530 --> 01:01:03,306
This is them. Two
men, 19-21 years old.
877
01:01:03,330 --> 01:01:05,646
Sexually confused.
I could say that this is
878
01:01:05,670 --> 01:01:08,116
a repressed homosexual
relationship.
879
01:01:08,140 --> 01:01:10,936
That's why Marion
Reece wasn't raped.
880
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,080
The anger is the repression...
881
01:01:13,630 --> 01:01:15,506
They need the relationship.
882
01:01:15,530 --> 01:01:17,656
Doesn't know why. Dominant...
883
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,606
Dominant is fighting a
feeling he sees as wrong.
884
01:01:19,630 --> 01:01:21,820
...wrong - the love for another man.
885
01:01:25,290 --> 01:01:27,220
Who did Kenneth Gray abuse?
886
01:01:28,470 --> 01:01:30,366
You need to get a
list of his victims.
887
01:01:30,390 --> 01:01:32,170
Could it be revenge?
888
01:01:33,570 --> 01:01:36,416
No. It could be revulsion.
889
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,500
Get out of here?
What's wrong?
890
01:01:40,290 --> 01:01:42,120
Who said you could get out of bed?
891
01:01:43,570 --> 01:01:44,856
I told you before.
892
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,390
You don't speak to her.
893
01:02:00,230 --> 01:02:04,196
OK. Let's concentrate on known
offenders between 19 and 21.
894
01:02:04,220 --> 01:02:05,566
Have we heard from
northeast Yorkshire
895
01:02:05,590 --> 01:02:07,430
on any of Gray's victims?
896
01:02:08,910 --> 01:02:11,146
- Not yet.
- Can you get on to them, please?
897
01:02:11,170 --> 01:02:14,466
I checked the TV angle on
the murders. Tony's right.
898
01:02:14,490 --> 01:02:15,776
Three of the killings were shown
899
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,426
on programing that
night or just before.
900
01:02:17,450 --> 01:02:19,106
Three? What about Marion Reece?
901
01:02:19,130 --> 01:02:20,606
No, I haven't found anything yet.
902
01:02:20,630 --> 01:02:23,860
Oh, I have. It was a
kids' cartoon channel.
903
01:02:24,390 --> 01:02:27,166
- A cartoon?
- What's the matter?
904
01:02:27,190 --> 01:02:28,546
What, a cartoon?
905
01:02:28,570 --> 01:02:30,546
- It's an odd choice.
- What's odd about it?
906
01:02:30,570 --> 01:02:32,706
Yous how violence on TV,
it promotes violence.
907
01:02:32,730 --> 01:02:35,100
Oh, yeah? Which shows
did Jack the Ripper watch?
908
01:02:36,050 --> 01:02:37,880
Did Christie have cable? No.
909
01:02:38,590 --> 01:02:41,376
The desire to act the way
killers do is already within them.
910
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,526
We breed them.
Society, not television.
911
01:02:43,550 --> 01:02:46,206
If it wasn't television in this
case, it would be something else.
912
01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:47,586
Brown hair, blue eyes.
913
01:02:47,610 --> 01:02:49,266
Why did you say it
was an odd choice?
914
01:02:49,290 --> 01:02:52,370
Because fantasy starts as
reality, and then it gets twisted.
915
01:02:53,030 --> 01:02:55,246
A cartoon does not fit.
916
01:02:55,270 --> 01:02:56,556
What time did you say they were on?
917
01:02:56,580 --> 01:02:58,030
Nine o'clock.
918
01:02:58,790 --> 01:03:00,770
What about the others, Kevin?
919
01:03:01,310 --> 01:03:03,086
Nine o'clock. All of them.
920
01:03:03,110 --> 01:03:04,566
How to eroticise cartoon violence?
921
01:03:04,590 --> 01:03:05,876
By doing it?
922
01:03:05,900 --> 01:03:07,630
Why choose it in the first place?
923
01:03:08,470 --> 01:03:10,016
Because it fits the
preordained fantasy.
924
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:11,850
"Let's sit down and watch telly,
925
01:03:12,710 --> 01:03:15,066
"and kill in the first way
we see after nine o'clock."
926
01:03:15,090 --> 01:03:18,320
- Why nine o'clock?
- I don't know.
927
01:03:18,530 --> 01:03:20,910
But it means something
to these two men.
928
01:03:21,910 --> 01:03:24,116
I don't understand. What do
you mean, you stole boots?
929
01:03:24,140 --> 01:03:26,086
Two pairs, three weeks ago.
930
01:03:26,110 --> 01:03:28,606
You remember the police
came ask if we'd sold them.
931
01:03:28,630 --> 01:03:30,466
- You'd better leave.
- Won't you call the police?
932
01:03:30,490 --> 01:03:32,426
I don't think is there
much point in that? Do you?
933
01:03:32,450 --> 01:03:33,796
Just get your things and go.
934
01:03:33,820 --> 01:03:35,750
No, I want you to tell the police.
935
01:03:35,810 --> 01:03:37,626
Tell them I stole
the boots. Ring them.
936
01:03:37,650 --> 01:03:39,210
Just go!
937
01:03:55,670 --> 01:03:57,430
We need a Stanley knife.
938
01:03:58,510 --> 01:04:00,670
If we know what they're up to,
939
01:04:01,650 --> 01:04:02,966
do we know what they
might attempt next?
940
01:04:02,990 --> 01:04:06,040
You obviously don't have
satellite or cable, sir.
941
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:07,656
Up to 200 channels.
942
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,626
I want you to make
that appeal, Carol.
943
01:04:09,650 --> 01:04:11,426
Dr. Hill's already advised you.
944
01:04:11,450 --> 01:04:14,840
We are running this inquiry.
945
01:04:16,350 --> 01:04:18,906
Now, as nine o'clock seemed
so important to them...
946
01:04:18,930 --> 01:04:21,740
that's when we broadcast.
947
01:04:23,470 --> 01:04:25,410
My decision is made.
948
01:04:26,270 --> 01:04:28,096
Then I want no part in it.
949
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,620
If anybody has any information
950
01:04:30,810 --> 01:04:32,796
as to the identity
of those carrying out
951
01:04:32,820 --> 01:04:34,670
these horrific murders,
952
01:04:35,300 --> 01:04:39,420
I would urge you to come forward
before any more lives are lost.
953
01:04:40,750 --> 01:04:43,486
Even if, against your wishes,
954
01:04:43,510 --> 01:04:46,630
you have in some way been
implicated in these crimes,
955
01:04:46,910 --> 01:04:50,190
now is the time to
say enough is enough.
956
01:04:51,450 --> 01:04:54,500
It isn't good for you to
watch too much television.
957
01:04:55,450 --> 01:04:58,240
Let's go. It's nine o'clock.
958
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:03,830
And it's not a good idea for you
to start having your own ideas.
959
01:05:27,550 --> 01:05:29,000
What's up?
960
01:05:40,750 --> 01:05:43,580
OK. Thanks.
961
01:05:44,150 --> 01:05:45,600
Damn.
962
01:05:45,660 --> 01:05:47,046
They looked up Gray's victims.
963
01:05:47,070 --> 01:05:49,180
They've all committed offences.
964
01:05:49,670 --> 01:05:51,556
Abuse a child, you
destroy their life.
965
01:05:51,580 --> 01:05:53,086
None of them fit the profile.
966
01:05:53,110 --> 01:05:54,786
- They must do.
- Well, they don't!
967
01:05:54,810 --> 01:05:56,980
Why not just admit
you've been wrong?
968
01:06:01,590 --> 01:06:03,040
- I've been wrong.
- No.
969
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,730
The age of the offenders,
the selection of Kenneth Gray,
970
01:06:08,610 --> 01:06:10,206
the drive of the crime,
971
01:06:10,230 --> 01:06:12,860
the gap between his murder
and the other offences -
972
01:06:12,910 --> 01:06:14,520
it's connected to him.
973
01:06:16,350 --> 01:06:17,800
I know it, Carol.
974
01:06:18,050 --> 01:06:19,500
OK.
975
01:06:20,570 --> 01:06:24,200
What if... Gray's victims
never came forward?
976
01:06:25,860 --> 01:06:27,570
They kept the secret?
977
01:06:31,550 --> 01:06:33,080
Then who's more likely?
978
01:06:34,450 --> 01:06:35,900
11 years old,
979
01:06:36,290 --> 01:06:37,740
interfered with,
980
01:06:37,810 --> 01:06:40,100
already emotionally retarded -
981
01:06:40,470 --> 01:06:41,920
the submissive.
982
01:06:43,350 --> 01:06:45,570
Yeah, you're right. Who says
he admitted being a victim?
983
01:06:54,430 --> 01:06:55,880
Can we go now?
984
01:06:56,770 --> 01:06:58,920
- What's the hurry?
- I just wanna go.
985
01:07:00,110 --> 01:07:01,686
Don't like it round here.
986
01:07:01,710 --> 01:07:03,840
Huh! There's nothing round
here that can harm us.
987
01:07:04,390 --> 01:07:06,350
And this guy ain't going anywhere.
988
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,050
Look at him.
989
01:07:09,570 --> 01:07:11,800
Michael, I just wanna go home.
990
01:07:12,790 --> 01:07:14,640
I don't like this any more.
991
01:07:39,190 --> 01:07:40,820
Where's Mac?
992
01:07:42,110 --> 01:07:44,030
He decided he
wouldn't be part of it.
993
01:07:44,490 --> 01:07:45,940
His choice.
994
01:07:48,710 --> 01:07:51,340
What are you looking at? What?
995
01:07:52,750 --> 01:07:55,830
Is that better? Can you see OK now?
996
01:07:57,230 --> 01:07:58,680
Watch this.
997
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:00,286
What is it?
998
01:08:00,310 --> 01:08:02,570
Something I videotaped earlier.
999
01:08:10,790 --> 01:08:12,650
This one's the owner of the car.
1000
01:08:14,110 --> 01:08:15,640
Who's this bloke, then?
1001
01:08:16,050 --> 01:08:17,666
The video card in his wallet
1002
01:08:17,690 --> 01:08:19,440
says his name's Paul Macmillan.
1003
01:08:19,870 --> 01:08:22,060
The car driver's girlfriend
has never heard of him.
1004
01:08:22,910 --> 01:08:24,460
The submissive?
1005
01:08:25,590 --> 01:08:27,040
Yeah.
1006
01:08:29,450 --> 01:08:31,860
The dominant has crossed the line.
1007
01:08:41,250 --> 01:08:43,970
Smile! It'll be fun.
1008
01:08:47,750 --> 01:08:50,960
It was just... the way
she was so insistent.
1009
01:08:51,150 --> 01:08:53,266
I'm sure it's nothing.
I shouldn't have rung...
1010
01:08:53,290 --> 01:08:55,306
Do you have her full
name and address?
1011
01:08:55,330 --> 01:08:56,780
Yeah.
1012
01:09:08,510 --> 01:09:10,316
Paul Macmillan's on
the list of ex-pupils
1013
01:09:10,340 --> 01:09:12,000
at Kenneth Gray's school.
1014
01:09:12,710 --> 01:09:15,386
A string of antisocial
and violent offences.
1015
01:09:15,410 --> 01:09:16,876
No known associates, but he spend
1016
01:09:16,900 --> 01:09:18,626
time at York Offenders Institute,
1017
01:09:18,650 --> 01:09:20,336
where he's a learning
disability programme.
1018
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,046
It is him. He is the submissive.
1019
01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:25,530
According to his records, his
blood group is A-Rhesus negative,
1020
01:09:25,790 --> 01:09:28,466
the same type on
Marion Reece's fridge.
1021
01:09:28,490 --> 01:09:30,480
He made him write in his own blood.
1022
01:09:30,540 --> 01:09:31,906
And guess what happens at York
1023
01:09:31,930 --> 01:09:34,200
Young Offenders
every night at nine?
1024
01:09:34,570 --> 01:09:36,280
Lock-in.
1025
01:09:36,490 --> 01:09:38,646
The time they can
sit and fantasise.
1026
01:09:38,670 --> 01:09:41,256
Find out who he shared a room
with, who he was close to.
1027
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,780
Have we found an address
on that video card?
1028
01:10:01,430 --> 01:10:02,890
Leah, are you in there?
1029
01:10:17,230 --> 01:10:18,680
In.
1030
01:10:34,190 --> 01:10:36,920
Bogus address. They've
never heard of him.
1031
01:10:39,250 --> 01:10:40,700
Damn.
1032
01:10:47,390 --> 01:10:49,790
Have you ever raped a woman before?
1033
01:11:02,670 --> 01:11:04,870
Bradfield CID. Could I have a word?
1034
01:11:17,150 --> 01:11:21,066
I don't know if it's a help, but
the girl who stole the Treadman boots
1035
01:11:21,090 --> 01:11:23,666
lives with two guys
in their early 20s.
1036
01:11:23,690 --> 01:11:25,566
Any evidence she's being abused?
1037
01:11:25,590 --> 01:11:27,736
Her boss said she
often had bruises,
1038
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,156
and a neighbour said it sounds like
1039
01:11:29,180 --> 01:11:30,630
she was taking a beating.
1040
01:11:31,870 --> 01:11:33,700
What's she got to do with it?
1041
01:11:33,750 --> 01:11:36,366
I thought we had our pair.
You said it was two males.
1042
01:11:36,390 --> 01:11:38,846
It is. She's the
dominant's girlfriend.
1043
01:11:38,870 --> 01:11:40,940
It's classic repression.
1044
01:11:52,050 --> 01:11:53,336
If I'm right, then is probable
1045
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,036
he'll escalate his abuse
of her by involving her.
1046
01:11:56,060 --> 01:11:58,320
- Is she in danger?
- Oh, yeah.
1047
01:11:58,850 --> 01:12:00,326
And she knows it.
1048
01:12:00,350 --> 01:12:02,820
That's why she admitted
to stealing the shoes.
1049
01:12:03,750 --> 01:12:05,960
She wants someone
to help her escape.
1050
01:12:09,230 --> 01:12:11,000
Tie her to the tree.
1051
01:12:38,690 --> 01:12:40,790
- Macmillan.
- That's Leah.
1052
01:12:41,370 --> 01:12:42,820
Who's that bloke, then?
1053
01:12:51,590 --> 01:12:53,040
I'm sorry.
1054
01:13:01,930 --> 01:13:04,040
Get this place sealed off.
1055
01:13:21,190 --> 01:13:24,600
We've got a name.
Michael James Dawson.
1056
01:14:08,330 --> 01:14:10,260
Light the fire.
1057
01:14:10,910 --> 01:14:13,470
We need to sterilise
the instruments.
1058
01:14:17,850 --> 01:14:19,796
We've had a report
of a male and female,
1059
01:14:19,820 --> 01:14:22,300
20s, abducting a
woman at knifepoint.
1060
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,386
Driving a green Audi, an L reg.
1061
01:14:24,410 --> 01:14:27,336
OK. Circulate the description.
Priority. Do not tempt apprehend.
1062
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:30,766
This man is dangerous.
Repeat, extremely dangerous.
1063
01:14:30,790 --> 01:14:32,686
- Where will he have taken her?
- We've got him.
1064
01:14:32,710 --> 01:14:34,456
Michael James Dawson, age 20.
1065
01:14:34,480 --> 01:14:38,210
Convicted GBH, ABH, wounding
and abducting a boy of 16.
1066
01:14:38,290 --> 01:14:41,106
Dawson and Macmillan shared
a cell at York for six months.
1067
01:14:41,130 --> 01:14:42,696
Macmillan came out four months ago.
1068
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,740
Dawson came out the day
before Gray disappeared.
1069
01:14:53,330 --> 01:14:55,440
Heat them in the flames.
1070
01:15:05,890 --> 01:15:07,606
Leah and the other woman
could already be dead.
1071
01:15:07,630 --> 01:15:10,626
Well, not necessarily. Torture's
a ritual. It takes time.
1072
01:15:10,650 --> 01:15:12,370
I don't know what's worse.
1073
01:15:14,480 --> 01:15:15,766
Where will he have taken them?
1074
01:15:15,790 --> 01:15:17,600
Well, the video's set in a wood.
1075
01:15:17,850 --> 01:15:21,300
He's using the corridor between
Bradfield, York and the sea.
1076
01:15:22,170 --> 01:15:24,920
When he took Andy and Gray,
that's the road he took.
1077
01:15:25,050 --> 01:15:26,396
This is DCI Jordan.
1078
01:15:26,420 --> 01:15:28,816
Request all units on the
Bradfield to York road.
1079
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,240
I want a check of all wooded areas.
1080
01:15:38,450 --> 01:15:39,900
You -
1081
01:15:41,010 --> 01:15:42,460
you do it.
1082
01:15:44,010 --> 01:15:45,690
Do it for me.
1083
01:15:48,910 --> 01:15:51,260
Is he going to kill Leah as well?
1084
01:15:52,890 --> 01:15:54,340
I think so.
1085
01:15:56,270 --> 01:16:00,020
- I can't.
- Do it. For me.
1086
01:16:03,990 --> 01:16:06,920
Control room, this is
Mike Sierra One Five.
1087
01:16:07,670 --> 01:16:09,666
Control here. Car
matching description
1088
01:16:09,690 --> 01:16:11,450
sighted at Penny Bank woods.
1089
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:13,326
It's too far.
1090
01:16:13,350 --> 01:16:15,056
What units are present? Over.
1091
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:16,366
Two dog handlers.
1092
01:16:16,390 --> 01:16:18,286
Nearest units five miles away.
1093
01:16:18,310 --> 01:16:20,200
If we don't act, Carol,
they die.
1094
01:16:20,470 --> 01:16:22,046
How? How do we act?
1095
01:16:22,070 --> 01:16:24,026
I send them in,
1096
01:16:24,050 --> 01:16:25,986
Dawson's alerted, he
kills the woman and Leah.
1097
01:16:26,010 --> 01:16:28,016
I hold back, he kills
the woman and Leah.
1098
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:29,730
Then we have to rely on Leah.
1099
01:16:29,950 --> 01:16:31,236
Leah?
1100
01:16:31,260 --> 01:16:33,470
She wants a way out
of that relationship.
1101
01:16:34,150 --> 01:16:35,900
We must give it to her.
1102
01:16:38,170 --> 01:16:40,360
They have to go in
without alarming him.
1103
01:16:41,990 --> 01:16:43,440
Can I talk to them?
1104
01:16:48,390 --> 01:16:50,300
You want me to help you?
1105
01:16:59,530 --> 01:17:02,366
No, please, don't make me do this.
1106
01:17:02,390 --> 01:17:05,840
It's really... very... easy.
1107
01:17:18,970 --> 01:17:20,980
OK. When you're ready.
1108
01:17:25,150 --> 01:17:27,740
Wha
? Who the hell do they belong to?
1109
01:18:10,690 --> 01:18:13,740
- Is he dead?
- I don't know.
1110
01:18:16,770 --> 01:18:18,670
Either way, it's over, Leah.
1111
01:18:19,450 --> 01:18:20,900
It's over.
1112
01:18:23,210 --> 01:18:25,340
He killed Paul, didn't he?
1113
01:18:25,410 --> 01:18:28,120
And those other people
that was on the news?
1114
01:18:28,450 --> 01:18:29,900
Yes, he did.
1115
01:18:54,450 --> 01:18:56,690
- Good work, Carol.
- Thank you, sir.
1116
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:13,000
Dawson's out of danger.
1117
01:19:15,210 --> 01:19:16,836
So she's just got the long sentence
1118
01:19:16,860 --> 01:19:18,790
of adjusting to life without abuse.
1119
01:19:22,850 --> 01:19:24,640
- What?
- Nothing.
1120
01:19:24,930 --> 01:19:26,540
I was just thinking.
1121
01:19:28,470 --> 01:19:30,430
We work well together.
1122
01:20:10,310 --> 01:20:11,760
Carol?
1123
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,580
Don't forget to wash your hands.
1124
01:20:17,530 --> 01:20:21,220
Oh, and I found you the
most wonderful tie today.
1125
01:20:28,180 --> 01:20:30,970
The Cognitive Behavioural
Therapy Department, please.
1126
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:33,570
It's Dr. Hill.
1127
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:35,366
I've got someone here
Dr. Franken
1128
01:20:35,390 --> 01:20:37,530
would be very interested to meet.
1129
01:20:38,930 --> 01:20:40,216
Tell him to call me
back in half an hour.
1130
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:41,690
Thank you.
1131
01:20:53,630 --> 01:20:56,020
For what we are about to receive
1132
01:20:56,590 --> 01:20:59,720
may the Lord make
us truly thankful.
1133
01:21:00,510 --> 01:21:01,960
Amen.
1134
01:21:22,830 --> 01:21:26,100
That's some distance, or
is that part of the charge?
1135
01:21:27,490 --> 01:21:28,786
Seven of clubs.
1136
01:21:28,810 --> 01:21:30,096
Where the hell does that fit?
1137
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:31,830
Hearts, diamonds, clubs...
1138
01:21:32,790 --> 01:21:34,226
Could be working his
way through the suits.
1139
01:21:34,250 --> 01:21:36,186
Working his way through the dead!
1140
01:21:36,210 --> 01:21:39,586
You've been suffering from,
among other things, irritability.
1141
01:21:39,610 --> 01:21:41,766
The headaches will
become more severe.
1142
01:21:41,790 --> 01:21:46,330
You will lose the ability to
walk. Eventually you'll die.
1143
01:21:46,570 --> 01:21:48,370
Carol, it might not
happen for years.
1144
01:21:48,850 --> 01:21:50,520
We've all got to die of something.
1145
01:21:51,850 --> 01:21:53,226
This guy's a gambler, Carol.
1146
01:21:53,250 --> 01:21:55,260
That's why he leaves the cards.
1147
01:21:55,530 --> 01:21:57,126
- Jack of diamonds.
- Or the knave.
1148
01:21:57,150 --> 01:21:59,536
If he could put it into words,
he wouldn't be shooting people.
1149
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,166
The man you're after is
intelligent and methodical.
1150
01:22:02,190 --> 01:22:05,440
He's highly organised. He
left nothing to chance, Carol.
1151
01:22:08,570 --> 01:22:10,486
I don't want any more
innocent people to die.
1152
01:22:10,510 --> 01:22:12,616
- No-one's innocent.
- You've done all you can.
1153
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,576
- You've covered all angles.
- I know that, Tony.
1154
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:15,886
Then why are we
having such shit luck?
1155
01:22:15,910 --> 01:22:17,296
As the killer's confidence grows,
1156
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:18,770
he extends his territory.
1157
01:22:19,630 --> 01:22:22,530
- So the longer this goes on...
- The worse it'll get.
1158
01:22:26,610 --> 01:22:27,986
Can't think straight.
1159
01:22:28,010 --> 01:22:29,590
I don't know what's real and...
1160
01:22:30,710 --> 01:22:32,366
what's accident.
What's intention...
1161
01:22:32,390 --> 01:22:33,676
You want Nice Tony back, do you?
1162
01:22:33,700 --> 01:22:36,026
I'll take any Tony I can
get, as long as he's alive.
1163
01:22:36,050 --> 01:22:37,790
He's picking his
victims at random, Carol.
1164
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,116
God playing dice with the universe.
1165
01:22:41,140 --> 01:22:44,100
We care about what we
care about fighting for.
1166
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,360
That's what gives
our lives meaning.